Thursday, February 22, 2007

Open Thread for Thursday, Feb 22, 2007

Here's some space to post your comments on what's going on today.

127 comments:

  1. Good news aggragator sites. i check these in the morning.

    Cursor

    http://www.cursor.org/

    Project for the Old American Century. POAC

    http://www.oldamericancentury.org/index.htm

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  2. Exxon Cut Profits in Run-Up to November Election
    Exxon, Shell and Marathon Oil slashed fourth quarter refining margins to ... from an 18% drop in refining margins, according to the company's profit report today. ...
    more hits from:

    http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/020507ED.shtml - 13 KB

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  3. Hi Toni, SJ, Cat...

    Thanks for the emails T, and Cat Chew....

    I'm fine, everything's great, thank you for asking Toni...

    Hope you're all well & good too...

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  4. Hi Shell,

    Can't stay long, work :(

    But have at the link.

    I need help here so if anyone wants to help let me know and I will send an invite

    Have a great day!!

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  5. how are you and yer gang doing?

    say hey to P for me!

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  6. Good morning and thanks for the open thread, Toni :)
    Hiya, Jim. Hiya, Alice.
    I'm too busy to blog/lurk lately, but it is so good to be able to pop in and see folks!

    It could happen here
    In an excerpt from his new book, Salon's columnist explains why, for the first time since the resignation of Richard M. Nixon, Americans have reason to doubt the future of their democracy.
    By Joe Conason


    Later.

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  7. Morning everyone. Missed the show today, darnit. >:(

    The Lies They Tell: How to Stop the Fox Propaganda Machine

    "Sliming" is the rabid, rapid, media barrage of persistently repeated lies and innuendo mastered by the right-wing media machine, which aims to tar candidates with negative associations before their campaigns get rolling. Or alternatively, to bruise them enough so that they will suffer under the burden of damaged goods as they try to gain footing.

    The conservative roots usually puts out a speculative story through Fox News or Matt Drudge (of the Drudge Report), a powerful mouthpiece for the Bush White House. Then the right-wing echo reverberates as the lies make their way to talk radio and the right-wing blogosphere. Eventually, it gets picked up and carried by the mainstream media, with few understanding where the story originated.

    In fact, disinformation conjured by the conservatives often has its most profound impact with the steady cooperation of the corporate press in repeating their lies. How many people still think that Al Gore said he invented the Internet?

    http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/48286/

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  8. You Say Scrotum, I Say Hoo-Ha

    Let's uncover the anatomy of a literary sex panic, shall we?

    http://www.alternet.org/rights/48320/

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  9. Clinton To Anti-War Voters: Bring It On

    Hillary Clinton is a once and future warrior. Campaign events in New Hampshire suggest the majority anti-war electorate has problems with her vote for the Iraq War and with her position on Iran.

    On Feb. 10, New Hampshire resident Roger Tilton asked Sen. Clinton at a town-hall meeting: "I want to know if right here, right now, once and for all and without nuance, you can say that war authorization was a mistake."

    Clinton responded: "Well, I have said, and I will repeat it, that knowing what I know now, I never would have voted for it. ... The mistakes were made by this president who misled this country and this Congress into a war that should not have been waged."

    A week later, in Dover, N.H., she dug in:

    "If the most important thing to any of you is choosing someone who did not cast that vote or said his vote was a mistake, then there are others to choose from. But for me, the most important thing now is trying to end this war."

    Her tough talk to anti-war voters is reminiscent of President Bush's taunt to the Iraqi insurgents: "Bring it on."

    People's concerns about Clinton's Iraq War vote is of more than historical interest. History has a frightening way of repeating itself. Drop the "q," add an "n." Iran.

    http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/48331/

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  10. i just got done with a project and have the day unscheduled cept maybe a nap later on and baking some bread!

    i love it!

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  11. hola !

    ==

    Another prog talk controversy

    Stephanie Miller to replace Dr. Mike mornings on kphx 1480 and affiliates.

    People don’t want comedy in the am.

    I always (fondly) thought of Dr. Mike as

    Alfred E. Newcomb

    jbenet

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  12. sj

    bread likes humidity as I remember

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  13. ACTION: Tell Dems not to let themselves get screwed by Fox News

    What particularly stuns me about the Nevada Democratic Party's decision here is that they first admit Fox News is biased against Democrats, and then use that as a justification for partnering with Fox News. If you believe, as the response from the Nevada Dems implies, that Fox News does not give Democrats a chance to speak in an "unfiltered" and "direct" fashion, then continuing to do business with them is entirely-self-defeating. All that does is lend Fox News, and their attacks against Democrats, credibility. At least Barack Obama and Howard Dean have both had the good sense to freeze out Fox News after they were smeared by the network. More Democrats should follow their lead, and stop shaking the hand that slaps them.

    http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/48323/

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  14. maybe mmr blog elves are miffed

    at having the back-up blog still

    lisyed at the top of page !! :)

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  15. The Democrats' Iraq Civil War

    A civil war may be brewing in the Democratic Party over Iraq. There are Democrats who want to take immediate and concrete steps to end the war. They want to force withdrawal through legislation. And there are Democrats who essentially do not want to go first. They want to push President George W. Bush to clean up the mess he made so that he, not the Democrats, will bear responsibility for how the war ends (which could be nastily). Both sides were able to agree on a nonbinding resolution decrying Bush’s surge and declaring support for the troops. But now that such a resolution has passed in the House and died in the Senate, the issue is, what’s next?

    In the House, the main Democratic action at the moment centers on the Murtha plan, which would attach his severely limiting conditions to the newest round of funding for the Iraq war. “We’re gonna stop this surge,” Murtha said during a recent interview with MoveCongress.org, an antiwar group.

    Republicans have gleefully dubbed this approach a “slow bleed”—as in wounding the troops. And it is a way of ending—or limiting—the war without calling for withdrawal. Since the Pentagon could not meet the standards Murtha would set—for instance, there are not sufficient numbers of armored trucks for the troops being deployed to Iraq as part of the surge—the surge could not go forward.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has endorsed Murtha’s proposal, but it is far from clear that she can steer the entire Democratic caucus behind Murtha, who chairs the defense appropriations subcommittee.

    http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/02/22/the_democrats_iraq_civil_war.php

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  16. "NEWS CONSUMER" said...

    http://sonoracatrescue.blogspot.com/

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  17. Cya T!

    ya James,

    eggwhite crusts...

    Italian style loafs mmmm!

    trying different yeasts currently.

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  18. ya

    we might have to make a burnt offering to the blog gods!

    any suggestions?

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  19. trying to get this format

    to work to my liking

    hence the peuse

    another learning curve

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  20. hence the pause

    (leave the spell checker for one moment)


    contemplating a suitable ritual ...

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  21. Hi Toni! Hi Jim!

    [Shhhh. I'm not really here. I'm working.]

    ***

    Dear activists, colleagues, and friends,

    Thanks for your terrific work in making sure our short video, The Real McCain, spread far and wide. Many of you forwarded TheRealMcCain.com to friends, relatives, uninformed McCain supporters and others. Combined with the 360 blogs who linked to it (YAY TO THE NETROOTS!), more than 250,000 unique visitors have seen the video. And while we would never take direct credit, McCain's poll numbers are falling at a fierce rate!

    In the same way many of you have used Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price and Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers, the short McCain piece has been an effective tool for setting the record straight -- and changing minds.

    And now Brave New Films is excited to launch FoxAttacks.com!

    http://foxattacks.com

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  22. i heard the iceknife 2day

    "long time no poke with a fondue fork...!"

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  23. eya Catharina!

    we won't tell a soul.

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  24. eya BB!

    morfternoonishness!

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  25. bibimimi troll'p said...

    i heard the iceknife 2day

    "long time no poke with a fondue fork...!"

    2/22/2007 12:08:00 PM

    Damn! I missed it.

    Again.

    Sounds like he's doing okay, then?

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  26. good day, eh?

    i think this 'grandmother' who sez she was 'preaching the gospel of jesus' at a gay event in philly was strictly there to harrass and insult. i've seen these people in action. they're a pox.

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  27. i've seen these people in action. they're a pox.

    2/22/2007 12:14:00 PM

    And what would the good doctor do to a pox... ?

    Eradicate it, perhaps?

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  28. Per Carlos Castaneda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Castaneda#The_Mastery_of_Intent

    I speak the word INTENT (like to wake it up)

    “INTENT I ask that the majority report radio blog work ... thank you.”

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  29. Catharine said...
    Sounds like he's doing okay, then?

    2/22/2007 12:13:00 PM


    yeah! he sounded downright upbeat. he's got a turn of phrase that doesn't just happen, y'know what i mean?

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  30. catherine;
    2/22/2007 12:14:00 PM

    And what would the good doctor do to a pox... ?

    Eradicate it, perhaps?

    2/22/2007 12:16:00 PM


    my sister and i were selling clothes and this smug fuck comes up to us, bids us good day, and puts one of those 'holy joe' pamphlets in front of us about how were damned. A middle aged woman and he younger sibling in a wheelchair...damned. Thanks, fella. Thanks for sharing God's love with me today. Doctor? No, an exterminator will do.

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  31. thom having a good show today.

    his bloggie is a hoot!

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  32. thom having a good show today.

    his bloggie is a hoot!

    2/22/2007 12:30:00 PM

    his last guest made me angry. i guess that's the pernt.

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  33. richard;

    i'm gettin' the creeps from this guy...

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  34. The Government Wants to Tap Your Internet Calls

    By Jayne Lyn Stahl, HuffingtonPost.com. Posted February 14, 2007.

    http://www.alternet.org/rights/47459/



    Over the past several months, the FCC and Justice Department have been working overtime, and fighting hard to tap not only your land line phone and cell phone, but to tap Internet calls, as well.

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  35. Don Juan Matus. said

    For me there is only the traveling on the paths that have heart, on any path that may have heart.
    There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge for me is to traverse it's full length. And there
    I travel—looking, looking, breathlessly.

    "A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide—awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. Going to knowledge or going to war in any other manner is a mistake, and whoever makes it will live to regret his steps"

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  36. i use firefox for thoms blog.

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  37. thom wants registration -- some delay w/ the verification.

    I firefox on the XP guest account. With no privileges

    No Norton et al virus ‘protection’

    just windows updates

    Survived the current windows clean install longest ever : )

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  38. better eh ?

    I know the roots

    got stuck on which version to use

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  39. find the best linux gek around you and use the distro they use.

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  40. i'm out

    back later

    love ya all!

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  41. Oprah hosted O'Reilly to discuss molestation without raising his remark that child had "fun" with his captor

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200702220011

    On the February 21 edition of her nationally syndicated talk show, Oprah Winfrey hosted Fox News anchor Bill O'Reilly during a discussion about child molestation but failed to question O'Reilly about his suggestion that Shawn Hornbeck -- the young boy who was abducted at age 11, held for four years and then found by police in Missouri -- may have willingly remained with his captor because he was having "a lot more fun than what he had under his old parents."

    Winfrey did note that O'Reilly had speculated about why Hornbeck did not flee, but did not explain to her viewers the extent and full content of O'Reilly's comments. During his February 21 appearance, O'Reilly told Winfrey that Child Sexual Abuse Accommodation Syndrome "is the key to the [Michael] Devlin case and the Shawn Hornbeck situation" and that the assertion by the "idiot media people" that Hornbeck suffered from Stockholm Syndrome is "a bunch of crap." Winfrey then asked: "Is that why you asked the question, 'Why [didn't?] he run?' " -- to which O'Reilly replied: "Right, right. Because people have to know how bad this is."

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  42. I have a moment between work time.

    Is Cheney next? ABC’s The Blotter notes: If the jury finds Scooter Libby guilty, “it could spur investigators to explore further whether Cheney was involved in conspiring to obstruct justice.”

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/02/is_cheney_next.html

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  43. Don Imus Reports Administration Won’t Allow Him To Tour Entire Walter Reed Facilities »
    This morning on his radio show, Don Imus continued to call attention to the deplorable conditions at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Imus has highlighted the issue every day this week. On yesterday’s show, he revealed, “I haven’t heard from anybody [in the administration] about whether I can come down there and take a little tour.”

    This morning, Imus updated his audience, reporting that administration officials called him and said he could take a limited guided tour of the facilities. Imus explained, “They will cherry pick some places for me to go look at, but they don’t want me just going down there looking at the entire facility. I’m not interested in having that.” Watch it:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/22/imus-reed/

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  44. Schieffer Slams White House On Iraq: Bush ‘Even More Isolated,’ Coalition ‘Coming Apart’ »
    Last night on CBS, chief Washington correspondent Bob Schieffer was sharply critical of the Bush administration’s attempt to spin Britain’s Iraq drawdown as a sign that conditions are improving.

    “If that’s the claim, it’s going to be a very hard sell to a country and a public that has already turned against this war,” Schieffer said. In fact, the UK’s decision to redeploy troops is “going to make the president even more isolated,” he said, adding, “Whether you’re for the war or against the war, Katie, what this underlines tonight is that the coalition that the president put together to fight this war is now coming apart.”

    Drawing parallels to the Vietnam era, Schieffer said Tony Blair’s decision reminded him of “when things were going badly, and the crusty old senator from Vermont, George Aiken, said there’s only one way out here, that’s to declare victory and just leave. That’s what we’re seeing.”

    Watch it:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/22/schieffer-bush/

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  45. Soldier pleads guilty to dodging 2nd Iraq tour

    FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) -- A soldier who fled before his second deployment to Iraq pleaded guilty Thursday to desertion under a plea deal that will send him to military prison for less than a year.

    "I quit the Army, I quit my unit, and I did not show up when I needed to," Spc. Mark Wilkerson told a military judge during his sentencing hearing.

    Wilkerson, 23, surrendered at Fort Hood in August -- about a year and a half after failing to return from an approved two-week leave -- saying he was tired of running and wanted to move forward with his life.

    He told the judge Thursday that he packed his belongings at Fort Hood and put some in storage, then went home to Colorado Springs, Colorado, for part of his leave. He didn't say where he spent his time while he was absent without leave.

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/02/22/awol.soldier.ap/index.html

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  46. The kid enlisted when he was 17.

    I mean come on.

    He shouldn't have been there in the first place.

    Why would anyone want to go back, especially seeing the mess it is and your friends sitting in Walter Reed.

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  47. Hi all. Thanks, toniDeeee for the alternate. I always miss reading my bloggy friends.

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  48. RWiley said...
    Hi all. Thanks, toniDeeee for the alternate. I always miss reading my bloggy friends.

    2/22/2007 04:09:00 PM

    hi, wiley!!

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  49. Arrested! Oregon Senator has 61/73 yo women arrested.

    Kathleen's post:

    For a 61 year old woman, I had a terrifically interesting day. On Wednesday, February 20, 2007 I got arrested - along with a 73 year old woman named Dot. We entered Sen. Gordon Smith's office and asked the receptionist if we couldn't speak to Senator Smith or one of his aides. We were informed that Senator Smith was in Salem today - and no aide except one involved with immigration issues was present in the office today. I asked if Sen. Smith or his aides would be in his office tomorrow and I was told that in order to speak to the senator a voter would have to submit a request in writing. The receptionist's answer was an acceptable response - but she ignored the fact I had just indicated that we would be willing to speak to one of his aides in consideration of the busy senator's schedule. I did not believe a "written request should be necessary to speak to one of the senator's aides so at this point I wondered, "Does this senator believe he has any obligation to the citizen - to his fellow Oregonians?" Why wouldn't a telephone call provide the senator OR one of his aides with sufficient notice that one of his constituents had a desire to express an opinion on an important and pressing issue such as the Iraq war. I felt that the receptionist was being evasive - and that the senator was prepared to duck and dodge any request for a serious conversation on the issue. At this point, I did sit down and wrote out a letter requesting some time with the senator, himself, within 7 working days since I felt that the effort of a written request warranted more than a few moments with one of the senator's office staff.

    The receptionist asked us to leave, Dot and I refused - and 3 regular police officers came to arrest us - soon joined by 3 bicycle officers. Dot and I must appear awfully dangerous to require 6 police officers - even though I am only about 5'4" tall and Dot's head barely came to the height of my shoulder. (I'd guess Dot is slightly less than 5' tall.) Neither Dot nor I would make a very convincing Amazons, but I felt honored. Each police officer who Dot and I encountered today were courteous, polite, and even apologetic; some seem amused - a few seemed shocked. I feel that they should be commended for their warmth and courtesy - I think Dot would agree that we felt we received better treatment from the hands of PPD than we did from Sen. Smith's office.

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  50. One Sen. Smith's aides who arrived about the time the police officers arrived. (I think the gentleman who came out to speak to us was an aide since he was dressed in a suit - not a security uniform.) Dot asked him if he could make a statement about the senator's stance about defunding the war. The man (I fail to recall his name) refused to offer statement on Smith's behalf, and he said, "You should have more respect for a U.S. senator than to refuse to leave his office". At his point I turned this man's rudy complexion a neon red because of something that I said.... Oops. In the presence of the police officers he'd called I said, ""Gee I woulda thought that a democratically elected politician should have more respect - for the voter - for his constituents... Should a senator play hide and seek with his constituents?" and I asked the police officers if we looked like we "two little old ladies looked dangerous?" and I made a statement to the affect that the senator must be very easily intimidated to be afraid of 2 elderly constituents.

    ---

    SEDER, if you read this, I expect you and Hartmann to be all over it. This is a possible "macaca" moment that we can use to unseat another incumbent Sen. The timing's not perfect, but a lot of folks already think Gordon's out of touch. Sink him early and clear the way a decent progressive.

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  51. Huh.

    Looks like one of the Hairy Ham-Fisted Alpha Liberal's friends is on the rec list at kos.

    Moving a Nation to Care by Ilona Meagher

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  52. gordons part of the repub nearly neocon biz and flag sucking gang.

    signed off on some terrible legislation,

    and is kept in office with the help of the local PNW fat cats.

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  53. Hi gang. A buddy sent me this...

    The 23rd Qualm (Written by a retired Methodist
    minister.)

    Bush is my shepherd; I dwell in want.
    He maketh logs to be cut down in national forests.
    He leadeth trucks into the still wilderness.
    He restoreth my fears.
    He leadeth me in the paths of international disgrace
    for his ego's sake.
    Yea, though I walk through the valley of pollution and
    war,
    I will find no exit, for Bush art in office.
    His tax cuts for the rich and his media control, they
    discomfort me.
    He preparest an agenda of deception in the presence of
    his religion.
    He anointest my head with foreign oil.
    My health insurance runneth out.
    Surely megalomania and false patriotism shall follow
    me all the days of his term,
    And my jobless child shall dwell in my basement forever.

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  54. eya Reefer Jello, WFC and Crnkr!

    good to read ya's!

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  55. Evening all!

    Hey RW!! Thanks for stopping by.

    Where's that pooper Crank?

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  56. Senate moves to revoke 2002 Iraq authorization. “Determined to challenge President Bush, Senate Democrats are drafting legislation to limit the mission of U.S. troops in Iraq, effectively revoking the broad authority Congress granted in 2002,” the AP reports. A draft of the bill “would restrict American troops in Iraq to combating al-Qaida, training Iraqi army and police forces, maintaining Iraq’s territorial integrity and otherwise proceeding with the withdrawal of combat forces. … The plan is to attempt to add the measure to anti-terrorism legislation that scheduled to be on the Senate floor next week and the week following.”

    LINK

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  57. Firedoglakettes, Jane, Christy and Marcy give us a wrap up of the libby case closing statements:


    http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/20/big-close/

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  58. Crank Bait said...
    toniD: "Where's that pooper Crank?"

    Bait: "Depends."



    toniD: Maybe it's time for a little "Serenity".

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  59. oh Baby!

    those three did a great video!

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  60. "NEWS CONSUMER" said...

    Hey toniD,

    This arrangement goes with the other one.

    (It may take a moment to open. For some reason it won't post as an html link.)

    'Round About Midnight" Thelonious Monk Solo 1957 03:49

    pnm://realsao1.terra.com.br/almanaque/thelonious.rm

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  61. Reefer that's great! I'm going to send it to my group if you don't mind.

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  62. Dpartment of anachronism and neat stuff:

    steampunk's keyboard mod

    http://steampunkworkshop.com/images/Kb44.jpg

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  63. Thanks NC. I'll see if it works!

    I think I can put it into real player.

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  64. sorry their server is down.

    it's a keyboard mod that makes it look like an old Underwood Typewriter.

    pix here:

    http://steampunkworkshop.com/keyboard.shtml

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  65. Lieberman Says War Vote Could Prompt Party Switch

    By: Carrie Budoff

    Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut told the Politico on Thursday that he has no immediate plans to switch parties but suggested that Democratic opposition to funding the war in Iraq might change his mind.

    Lieberman, a self-styled independent who caucuses with the Democrats, has been among the strongest supporters of the war and President Bush’s plan to send an additional 21,500 combat troops into Iraq to help quell the violence there.

    "I have no desire to change parties," Lieberman said in a telephone interview. "If that ever happens, it is because I feel the majority of Democrats have gone in a direction that I don't feel comfortable with."

    Asked whether that hasn't already happened with Iraq, Lieberman said: "We will see how that plays out in the coming months," specifically how the party approaches the issue of continued funding for the war.

    LINK

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  66. toniD said...
    Thanks NC. I'll see if it works!

    2/22/2007 08:47:00 PM

    "NEWS CONSUMER" said...

    It should.

    The 100 most important American
    musical works of the 20th century

    http://www.npr.org/programs/specials/vote/list100.html

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  67. Sorry NC, I'm kind of tired tonight and am spacing out a little.

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  68. "NEWS CONSUMER" said...

    I know what you mean.
    Winter sucks.

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  69. lovely night tonite. me and the pups just got gack from a long walk.

    some of the trees in the hood are blossoming!

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  70. Cheney personally attacks Pelosi day her brother dies
    by John in DC · 2/22/2007 10:55:00 AM ET

    Remember Cheney's personal attack on Pelosi yesterday, once again saying she was doing Al Qaeda's dirty work? Well, he decided to do this only hours after her brother died. Classy. As Lynne Cheney would say, "he is not a good man."

    Our condolences to the Speaker.

    http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/02/cheney-personally-attacks-pelosi-day.html

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  71. And now, sit back and take a little breather with a fantastic and completely unscripted promo video of Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell from the days when the voice was more important than the entourage. Every once in a while, I find a YouTube gem that I just have to share with everyone else. Love, love, love this one.

    LINK

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  72. i'm poking around in odd corners,

    finding wonderful treasures and oddities.

    for example, amazing woodworking...

    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/105/256489721_ba3547e418_o.jpg

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  73. The Pentagon on Thursday canceled plans to detonate a 700-tonne explosive charge in the Nevada desert that had drawn environmental protests and lawsuits. It was called "Operation Divine Strake."

    LINK

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  74. 7 more posts and you break a hundred!

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  75. Hi Jum. Fading fast here. It's been a long day for me.

    Spacing out a little so I have been trying to find news so I can concentrate.

    Not winning that battle though.

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  76. "Operation Divine Strake."

    right on!

    a bunch of us letter bombed that one.

    what a pack of idiots to even think of doing that with all the poison thats in the proving ground soil that wouuld have gone into the air.

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  77. Have you been to Sam's blog? Anyone there?

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  78. sheesh toni, take a break lass!

    have a glass of wine and unwind.

    we've had a fair amount of stress this last month eh?

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  79. yubb, just posted there.

    Dada and a fake nobody, Alice and a few nubies, and a pathetic Anonocow,

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  80. It's a shame that the other blog is so broken. people scattered.

    We need the interaction with the show.

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  81. "NEWS CONSUMER" said...

    I know what you mean.
    Winter sucks.

    Looking forward to spring.

    Are you really going to move NC?

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  82. i had an absolutely delightful day!

    nothing on the to do list, a good nap, freinds over to visit, baked bread!

    i wish i could bronze it and hang it on my rear view mirror.

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  83. well what is, is.

    we can call and urge sam to get in gear...?

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  84. Okay, can't fight it any more.
    Need some sleep. See you all in the AM for the show.

    Later

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  85. night T!

    thanks for putting us up!

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  86. toniD said...
    Looking forward to spring.
    Are you really going to move NC?
    2/22/2007 10:27:00 PM

    "NEWS CONSUMER" said...

    Come hell or high water.

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  87. both likely this decade NC...

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  88. "NEWS CONSUMER" said...

    Just as long as I'm somewhere else.

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  89. i imagine sam is working on the blog as much as he can from his end. i really doubt he's just ignoring the situation. i think the problem is that interaction between the blog and the show quickly devolves into nitpicking and demands on how he should do his job. this seems to always happen, and i find it frustrating so i can only imagine how frustrating he must find it. and impossible demands - to read the blog even while on the air or whatever - and people wanting the opposite things at the same time. i think this is why janeane never read the blog and i can understand that.

    to me, if we want the blog to evolve into something bigger or something else, it's up to us to do that. it isn't sam's responsibility. and it's not the bloggers' job to produce the show.

    that's my two cents and it's been weighing on my for a while now. think it's time for me to take a break...

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  90. "to me, if we want the blog to evolve into something bigger or something else, it's up to us to do that."

    i agree with this for sure. this is a good start here.

    less friction and bickering for sure.

    what time is it there j?

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  91. it's 2pm, sunshine. i'm getting ready to leave for a bit - to interview my neighbor about her experiences during the war.

    yes, it is a good start. personally, i like the blog as a place to get info and meet up with friends. most of what i do is outside the blog. i wasn't here when sam apparently tried to organize letter-writing or whatever it was that people have referred to. but if that didn't take off, i'm not sure how anything more than what we have now would take off.

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  92. thanks j

    it evolves as the pressures mandate.

    letting it form itself is part of it, guiding it is another.

    the community aspect is the real significanse.

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  93. i could list all the reasons sams efforts flopped.

    i've kept track over the years, even wrote about it to him.

    no response. the two way is essential for building an org.

    like how we rant at each other, then it gets interesting as we begin to talk TO each other.

    i've known this is as an essential since watching my parents.

    most peeps never observe this, much less use it as a technique.

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  94. the two-way is essential. i think that's obvious, and it comes up any time you have people interacting.

    but maybe sam's goal isn't necessarily to build an organization. maybe he wants to build a radio show and a blog community that supports each of the organization-building we do on our own. in which case, pushing sam or the show producers to do that is counterproductive, i think. i don't get the sense that sam wants to be a daily kos.

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  95. hee!

    Bgurl playing with the pups!

    losa grrrrring and barks playing sock with them!

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  96. yubb,

    sammer got enuff on his plate as it is.

    i go to lots of other blogs to stread the news and get it.

    i love the peeps here. only reason i spend the time.

    but i refuse to force people to do things. i'll try to talk em into it, but i know when they're unwilling to put out the effort.

    (hee! i have a dog wrestling match going on under the desk here!)

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  97. well,

    time for me to do a few things.

    Cya later! have a good interview!

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  98. "NEWS CONSUMER" said...

    Hey Jenise, Jim.

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  99. hey, NC. sorry, literally on my way out the door. i'm going to try again with the old lady down the street. she was busy last time i stopped by.

    see you later, sunshine.

    have a great evening, you two.

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  100. Jenise said...
    hey, NC. sorry, literally on my way out the door. i'm going to try again with the old lady down the street. she was busy last time i stopped by.

    see you later, sunshine.

    have a great evening, you two.

    2/22/2007 11:52:00 PM

    "NEWS CONSUMER" said...

    I've done something similar.
    It took a long time..
    Go slow.

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  101. "NEWS CONSUMER" said...

    Hi Alice.

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  102. The John Butler you posted at Sam's joint is nice, A.

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  103. eh. Some of us do not make the jump intact, I guess.

    G'night, and it's been a pleasure to read you Waiting for Cicero and air-ono. Sincerely. Later...

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  105. Good night, Mme. Chew A pleasure to read you (as always).

    Think I'm about done as well.

    Many blessings.

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