I'm leaving the other open thread open for the time being. Some great stuff posted in the comments.
Lots happening:
Libby trial going to jury tomorrow.
Brits withdraing troops from Iraq
Negroponte signed order that intel be objective and absent political motivations.
Audit: US terror statistics Flawed
New maps show SF Bay drowning
And this:
Congress responds to Walter Reed report. “Seizing on an investigative report by The Washington Post’s Dana Priest and Anne Hull, Sens. Barack Obama (D-IL) and Claire McCaskill (D-MO) will introduce legislation next week to require more frequent inspections of hospitals providing treatment to active-duty military personnel.” Meanwhile, Sens. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) and Patty Murray (D-WA) “wrote to Defense Secretary Robert Gates today demanding an inspector general’s investigation into living conditions for the returning soldiers at Walter Reed.”
Lots to discuss!
101 comments:
Growing Middle East Tensions Incite ‘Weapons Buying Binge’ Among Gulf States
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This story brought to you by Politico.com
Helen Thomas Moving Back After 46 Years Down Front
By: Mike Allen
February 20, 2007 04:47 PM EST
Every theater-style seat in the White House briefing room, now closed for renovation, had a brass plaque inscribed with the name of a news organization. Only one, in the middle of the front row, had a name: “HELEN THOMAS,” it said. The unique assigned seat between the chairs for CBS News and ABC News was reserved for the legendary United Press International correspondent who is now a columnist for Hearst Newspapers.
The press corps is scheduled to move from temporary facilities back into the spiffed-up, rewired briefing room in May or June. Thomas, who has been questioning presidents and press secretaries for 46 years, plans to be there. But her front-row seat won’t be. Plans call for her to be moved to the second row to make room for a cable news channel – a sign of Washington’s changing pecking order, and of the new ways that Americans get their news.
“I didn’t think I had a monopoly on that seat,” Thomas, 86, said in a telephone interview. “Since my peers have decided that I don’t belong there, I’ll bow to their – I’ll drink the – What did Socrates drink?”
Hemlock?
“I’ll drink it,” she said. “You have to submit to the will of the people, and apparently this is the will of my peers. It’s OK with me. I’ve had a good run in the front seat.”
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John Kerry on Britain's phased withdrawal: “America’s leading ally in Iraq has decided that a timetable for the phased redeployment of troops is the only responsible policy to help force Iraqis to stand up for Iraq. After years of touting Prime Minister Blair’s resolve, the Administration should now pay attention to his new policy. This announcement makes it all the more inexplicable that the President and leading Republicans actually want to send more American troops into the middle of an Iraqi civil war.”
-- Josh Marshall
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"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Hey guys,
Frontline is coming on tonight.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newswar/
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
It's a little easier
to post this way.
Sams place is a mess.
Anyone hear from Shell?
Evening all!
I'll get your post for you Crank
Crank Bait said....
toniD,
I'm wondering how the legal world is going to view, on the one hand, a guy who lied under oath about an extra-marital affair and, on the other hand, a guy who lied under oath because he was too busy being a Republican administration lacky to accurately remember the truth.
The opening words in the seven hours of recorded testimony played for the trial jury offer Fitzgerald's admonition (and offer) to Libby that any statement is given under oath and the option is always present to not answer (or, implied, that no answer may be given because Libby's memory is known to be unreliable to Libby himself).
If the "gee whiz, who knew that the whirling dervish that is White House employment would make me state falsehoods under oath?" defense works, then testimony to a Grand Jury means nothing.
I want to watch Frontline. I saw you posted that on an earlier thread here, NC
the "gee whiz, who knew that the whirling dervish that is White House employment would make me state falsehoods under oath?" defense works, then testimony to a Grand Jury means nothing.
Nothing surprises me anymore, Crank! This admin is literally getting away with murder, lying, cheating and stealing.
Read the National Republican Campaign Committee's statement on Alishtari, urging against "rushing to judgment" on the guy just because he's been indicted for supporting terrorism, here.
-- Paul Kiel
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here for a bit.
then back at it.
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Looks like a 4 part series.
Sounds like it's going to
be a good one.
I missed the The American Experience episode
on New Orleans. I was wondering how long it took
to rebuild New Orleans after the 1927 flood.
I'm not sure if it was even addressed in the piece.
Been sort of looking around to see what I can find.
Jim, I don't have L@L's email. I thought you did since you made some jewelery for his wife.
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Hey Jim,
You working on... "the car"?
Might want to read this Crank...
Today's Must Read
By Paul Kiel - February 20, 2007, 8:45 AM
With Scooter Libby's trial speeding to a close, the focus today is partly on Libby, but mostly on the man behind the curtain for all of Plamegate: Vice President Cheney.
In National Journal, Murray Waas reports on the ugly facts Cheney avoided having to publicly confront when Libby's defense team suddenly decided not to call him to testify:
At the time that Libby offered his explanation to Cheney [in the fall of 2003, after the Plame investigation had begun], the vice president already had reason to know that Libby's account to him was untrue, according to sources familiar with still-secret grand jury testimony and evidence in the CIA leak probe, as well as testimony made public during Libby's trial over the past three weeks in federal court.
Yet, according to Libby's own grand jury testimony, which was made public during his trial in federal court, Cheney did nothing to discourage Libby from telling that story to the FBI and the federal grand jury. Moreover, Cheney encouraged then-White House press secretary Scott McClellan to publicly defend Libby, according to other testimony and evidence made public during Libby's trial.
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a black 80 vette for a friend.
the guy who fixes all my antique instrument guages...
nose ding and paint and a major patch on the frame .
called and left a message on his answering machine T!
just mailed CB.
a letter and a few bucks.
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Oh yeah.. You did say you
were working on a vette.
Front-end as I recall.
Nice way to spend time.
Serious fiberglass deal.
Black - tough color.
Everything shows.
Guages are a blast.
Tach, Manifold Vacuum,
Volt, Ammeter, water
temp. & oil pressure.
Easier to connect to
older cars.
Distributor cap & points. :)
the pentagon recently found it had too many staff seargents and offered an early retirement bonus. They promised any seargent who retired straight away his full annual benefits plus $1,000 for every inch measured in a straight line between any two parts of the seargent's body, with the seargent getting to select any pair of points he wished.
The first man, an Air Force seargent, accepted. He asked the pension man to measure from the top of his head to the tip of his toes. Six feet. He walked out with a check of $72,000.
The second man, an Army seargent, asked them to measure from the tip of his outstretched hands to his toes. Eight feet. He walked out with a check for $96,000.
When the third seargent, a grizzled old Marine, was asked where to measure, he told the pension man ... "From the tip of my penis to the bottom of my testicles."
The pension man suggested that perhaps the Marine seargent might like to reconsider, pointing out the nice checks the previous two seargent had received. The Marine insisted and the pension expert said that would be fine, but that he'd better get the medical officer to do the measuring.
The medical officer attended and asked the seargent to drop the pants. He did. The medical officer placed the tape on the tip of the seargent's penis and began to work back. "My God!" he said. "Where are your testicles?"
The seargent replied, "In Iraq."
paint came out fine, the trick is in the blending passes.
this is a 427 his wife drives to work.
i'll test drive it when i get done...
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Frontline is coming on.
bbl -
yup
automatic
(moms car eh?)
is a modded b&M box.
don't know if the got it right.
fun to drive though. good to read ya.
I just checked in on Sam's alt blog.
Nobody was over there and I believe a troll or two. If the trolls come here, I guess I might have to go to registration.
Tony Snow and White House Reporters Slam The ‘Hateful,’ ‘Polarized’ Blogosphere
In a press roundtable at the National Press Club tonight, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow led a discussion with White House correspondents about the impact of the internet on their respective jobs. Their conclusion? They don’t like being challenged by blogs.
NBC News’ David Gregory bemoaned how political coverage has “become so polarized in this country…because it’s the internet and the blogs that have really used this White House press conferences to somehow support positions out in America, political views.” Tony Snow admitted he sometimes reads blogs (”I’ll occasionally punch it up”) only to find “wonderful, imaginative hateful stuff that comes flying out.”
Newsweek’s White House correspondent Richard Wolffe added, “[Bloggers] want us to play a role that isn’t really our role. Our role is to ask questions and get information. … It’s not a chance for the opposition to take on the government and grill them to a point where they throw their hands up and surrender.”
Watch it:
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Crank, that's only if we get really bad trolls. I can dump what they've posted now.
ya, i loved my lil MG Midget.
i fix a lot of spridgits for the MG maniacs.
deff skateboardish. could put my hand on the ground without opening the door
ToniD's car clinic and cooking blog.
"Tuned Spinach and Increased Mileage... Truth or Rumor?"
Frontline is on PBS now.
News Wars part II
News War: Secrets, Sources & Spin (Part II)
Feb. 20, 2007 at 9pm
The series continues with a look at the legal jeopardy faced by a number of journalists. Correspondent Lowell Bergman interviews reporters facing jail for refusing to reveal their sources and asks how much the press can reveal about secret government programs in the war on terror without jeopardizing national security. FRONTLINE examines how much of this battle is politics and whether such reporting actually harms national security. (more »)
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back to it
back before snooze time.
Big Brother Is Watching You
By: Nicole Belle @ 6:22 PM - PST
Texas Kaos:
Last month I wrote about a story I've been following: the case of domestic spying on major American data carriers. At the time, using information available online as well as several news sources, I put forth some speculation.
First, that innocent Americans' data is being swept up and stored thanks to the use of the "full pipe" data gathering technique. Second, that the government's Total Information Awareness Program - which was "killed" but never defunded - was being used to build domestic spying facilities around the country.
I caught PBS's NOW program last Friday by chance, and I'm glad I did. They have resources not available to this lowly blogger. What PBS discovered will chill your bones. Yes, data on innocent Americans is being intercepted and stored. Additionally, more whistleblowers have come forward to establish the existence of another secret spy room on AT&T's network, built post 9-11.
The key findings in PBS's report:
The government is intercepting most emails sent domestically.
AT&T is collecting most emails and sharing them with the government, specifically the NSA (this is backed up by Klein's documents).
The NSA spy room at AT&T's San Francisco facility is only accessible to the NSA and AT&T employees cleared by the NSA.
The NSA's interest seems to be in MAE WEST, *the* major hub of American and international internet traffic on the West Coast.
The device installed in San Francisco is capable of intercepting 10 GIGBYTES of data per second. In layman's terms, that means it could go through all the information in all the books in the Library of Congress in 15 minutes.
Read on…
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hi everyone!
nice blog ToniD!!!!
-conbo
Thanks Connie.
People come and go here but it's easier to post here then Sam's alt blog.
How're you? When are you moving?
its nice and tidy
-conbo
How're you? When are you moving?
2/20/2007 09:46:00 PM
19 Days!!!!
:)
Do you have a job where you are moving? Idaho isn't it?
And how's your son? Still into dynosaurs?
I do not have a job
I jumping into an unknown
A little crazy
But my family is there so it is not tooo crazy
My son is still into Dinosaurs.
It sounds strange-but he is a smart kid, he does develops new interests, but he hangs onto his dinosaurs.
He is a very grown up little man though. Very conscientious.
Recently he has been coming and telling me he is 'sorry' out of nowhere, like he isn't misbehaving or anything.
And I am like why, Will?
"Because I got mad at you Mommy."
how sweet is that? he is so sensitive!!!!
:)
how is your grandson
My grandson is doing well. 14 and growing! He used to be into dinsaurs also. I had to draw them for him. Some are easier than others to draw.
Hi everybody! I've been
lurking on each of the
substiute blogs. Hope
you're all well and hope
we're all reconnected soon!
Reefer
Oh no!
I have to draw them for my son too!
No kidding!
:)
I can only do the long necked ones.
the rest...not really
-conbo
i learnt what an "emo" is today
Hey Reefer Welcome!
I can only do the long necked ones.
the rest...not really
-conbo
I got pretty good at the triceritops (sp)!
Ono "emo" means emotional doesn't it?
some kind of watered-down goth grunge hybrid
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=emo
not according to definition #7
Oh no!
-conbo
2/20/2007 10:12:00 PM
"emo"
ono
*
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
toniD said...
I just checked in on Sam's alt blog.
Nobody was over there..
2/20/2007 08:38:00 PM
Nobody's over there because
it's a mess.
*
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
toniD said...
Big Brother Is Watching You
2/20/2007 09:25:00 PM
I ain't worried about "Big Brother."
What you got to watch out
for are the motherfuckers.
hiya jim. its dusty from the island. wondering how you are keeping. got lots of interesting stories. i look forward to a conversation in the near future
//The device installed in San Francisco is capable of intercepting 10 GIGBYTES of data per second.//
2/20/2007 09:25:00 PM
*
so they search for key-words
and the ones containing the key-words are put in a special place
and those without are sorted how?
See you all in the AM. Getting tired again. Have fun!!
night, toni
thanks for the bloggie
x.
toniD said...
Tony Snow and White House Reporters Slam The ‘Hateful,’ ‘Polarized’ Blogosphere
2/20/2007 08:53:00 PM
*
if it wasn't for liberal/progressive blogs, america would be toast
they're the ones fighting the good fight
backing up true jounalists like helen thomas
I got pretty good at the triceritops (sp)!
2/20/2007 10:14:00 PM
:)
mine always look deformed
-conbo
*
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
You might want to take a look at this:
Brooklyn Tenants Reflect on Successful Experiment
Hey, ono.
I normally don't blog-whore, but if you've got a sec, stop by my place and have a laugh.
Frontline's "News Wars" is excellent
*
i'd like to see a montage of all the times bush has said, "i'm glad you brought that up" to every tough question a reporter has asked him
when he says that, you know he has absolutely no clue
which one, waits
1. The Airing Of Grievances, or
2. WaitingForCicero
Waiting.
The grievance blog is pretty much inactive.
Are you laughing yet?
: )
the pic is too dark
Well, let me see what I can do about that.
...
Best I can do, ono. It's an old, crappy pic, but it's amusing.
Got a lightened version up, now.
A certain photo-savvy blogger friend helped me with that earlier today.
eya Dusty
Hoo tah! i been vibing you to come and visit here for a month. been thinking of you and the gang at Ukie!!! send me yer phone # again and i'll give ya a call!
sofrajones@telus.net
hello blogmates... thanks for hosting us, toniD~
A belated, "good evening," to everyone.
j-sama: the backpacking talismans are in good order. Many thanks!
eya Csea! eya WFC!
omononoAO!
off to watch Battlestar... Hi/Bye everyone...
✸☯✡♥✵
toniD said...
Helen Thomas Moving Back After 46 Years Down Front
What did Socrates drink?”
Hemlock?
“I’ll drink it,” she said. “You have to submit to the will of the people, and apparently this is the will of my peers. It’s OK with me. I’ve had a good run in the front seat.”
2/20/2007 06:52:00 PM
Oh for Pete's sake..
She's older than Socrates -
Have a cup of Lipton w/honey & lemon.
Moving your seat is not the
same as committing suicide.
Geez..
eya s.j., cathy
watching frontline's "news wars"
chapter by chapter
Oops
2/21/2007 12:13:00 AM
That was me.
"NEWS CONSUMER"
Back later (maybe)
Thanks again for the alt spot, toniD.
Looks like Nobody's Legion(s) of fans have descended on Sam's blogger site. Sweet.
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
I started to watch it but fell out.
It will be on again.
What I caught was that the
president wrapped himself
in the American flag and
declared that secrecy was
necessary to insure national
security.
ah! shower and a hot meal!!!
life is good!
*
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Hey Jim,
I know this guy -
Brooklyn Tenants Reflect on Successful Experiment
(The area was used by the
mob to dump bodies.)
amazing story NC.
so screw the ugly stuff,
how ya doin?
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Tired.
Too much ugly stuff.
yubb
been there...
why i like to make and fix stuff
you'll be suprised how much that stuff robbed ya of enegerny when you get out of the middle of it.
might as well get some Z time in...
Cya in the AM. i'm crashing out!
love ya all! sweet dreams )
In the burbs -
Everyone's transfixed on Iraq.
That's on the agenda.
And this place and others like
it have become the land that
time forgot. What a hellhole.
Same thing happened when
Reagan & his father were
president - until LA erupted.
You have no idea how much
hostility exists in this city.
Oops,
2/21/2007 01:25:00 AM
That was me.
"NEWS CONSUMER"
Goodnight Jim.
1992 Los Angeles riots
"Smaller, copycat riots occurred in other United States cities. San Francisco police arrested 1400 rioters in the downtown area and established a curfew. The Nevada National Guard was deployed to Las Vegas and 200 people were arrested. Seattle was hit by overnight mobs of up to 100 people rampaging through business districts. Fresno had gangs rampaging through the older downtown business district with one bystander murdered in their car. New York saw racial beatings, a mob looting a shopping mall, and another at Madison Square Garden. Hundreds of protesters confronted police in Atlanta. Minor incidents were reported in Tampa, Pittsburgh, Birmingham and Omaha. Major incidents took place in Dallas and Madison, Wisconsin"
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Crown Heights Riot
Sunshine said...
you'll be suprised how much that stuff robbed ya of enegerny when you get out of the middle of it.
2/21/2007 01:20:00 AM
"Probably I should not consciously and deliberately forsake my particular calling to do the good which society demands of me, to save the universe from annihilation; and I believe that a like but infinitely greater steadfastness elsewhere is all that now preserves it."
-Henry David Thoreau, Walden
might as well get some Z time in...
sweet dreams
Morning all
morning, mistress
come to grab: Tony Snow and White House Reporters Slam The ‘Hateful,’ ‘Polarized’ Blogosphere
damn straight we're hateful...
we hate lies
and fluffy media who don't ask salient questions
so you only have yourselves to blame for this polarization
that Larisa Alexandrovna article about the SS. John Stennis being gung-ho...
well, it's not there!
you fucked me, t
i don't know if i can *sniff* trust you anymore
Oh Jeez, ono. I post so much I can't remember that one. Post the link!!
ok, you combine...
Tony Snow and White House Reporters Slam The ‘Hateful,’ ‘Polarized’ Blogosphere
with...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/20/rep-adam-putnam-r-fl/
Rep. Adam Putnam (R-FL) reveals that he didn’t know — and didn’t care — if the Pelosi plane story was true. Putnam claimed he pushed the story because it was the first break “from the media in driving our message.” A message which happened to be completely false.
which links to...
Look, of course Putnam is going to lie. But what of the media? This story was all over the airwaves and newspapers for days and days and days -- even well after it had been discredited.
and there's your hate & polarization...
because the m.s.m. have failed in their responsiblity to the public
preferring a buddy-buddy relationship with those they're meant to be reporting on
LOL!
your blog wouldn't allow me to post my last comment on the grounds that...
//Your HTML cannot be accepted: Tag is not closed://
smart little bloggie...
got A.I.
this one, toni...
From Larisa Alexandrovna:
I just got word that the SS. John Stennis has arrived in the Persian Gulf on February 15. It apparently steamed better than 24 knots and had no port calls, which suggests it was in a hurry.
www.atlargely.com/2007/02/stennis%20_arrives.html
2/20/2007 02:00:00 PM
That's the link that was with the story. I can't remember which site I got that from.
Try this one ono...
http://www.atlargely.com/
100 green comments sitting on a wall...
woo-hoo
ONE HUNDRED!!
or a "ton" (100 runs) as we say in cricket
Welcome to Judge's Opinion
This blog features unpublished cartoon sketches, which some readers may find offensive. Viewer discretion is advised.
http://judgesopinion.kcstar.com/
This cartoon says it all
http://judgesopinion.kcstar.com/?q=node/445
morning folks.
ebony and ivory...hate
that black on red -- very hard to read.
thanx toni
Welcome roxie!
Seems to be a troll on Sam's blog putting down AAR.
New thread up:
http://abramoffjournal.blogspot.com/2007/02/open-thread-for-feb-21-2007.html
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